Sono vs Ano in Conversation: So- and A- Words for Things Out of Sight

When the thing is not visible, ano and are refer to something both speaker and listener already know, while sono and sore refer to something only one of you knows or that has just been mentioned in the conversation.

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Sono vs Ano in Conversation: So- and A- Words for Things Out of Sight

Textbooks teach sono and ano with a classroom sketch: sono for things near the listener, ano for things far from both. Then you start talking about people who are not in the room and last week's dinner, and distance stops meaning anything. Japanese switches to a second map, and it is a map of knowledge. Imagine that every pair of speakers keeps a shared photo album of what they have experienced together. A- words open that album: ano mise is the restaurant we both know. So- words point at the words lying on the table between you: something one of you has just said, which the other cannot find in any album. Ko- words are the speaker holding up a picture of their own. This guide starts with the basic choice between sono hito and ano hito, then looks at ko- for vivid topics, are for half-remembered words, and the mistakes English speakers make.

A- words point into memory that speaker and listener share

So- words point at what was just said or what one person knows

Ko- presents the speaker's own topic as if holding it up

Are works as a stand-in word only when memory is shared

The core idea: a shared album and words on the table

For things you can see, sono marks what is near the listener and ano marks what is far from you both. That is the physical map, and an earlier article covers it. Once the thing is out of sight, a different map takes over.

Picture a photo album that you and the listener have filled together. A- words open it: are and ano tell the listener to look for something you both already know. So- words do not touch the album. They point at the words lying on the table between you, something just said that one of you cannot find in memory. A colleague mentions a café, and your reply shows at once whether you know the place.

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JapaneseRomajiMeaning
昨日、新しいカフェに行きました。Kinō, atarashii kafe ni ikimashita.I went to a new café yesterday.
そのカフェはどこにありますか。Sono kafe wa doko ni arimasu ka.Where is that café? (I don't know it.)
ああ、あのカフェですね。Ā, ano kafe desu ne.Oh, that café. (I know the one you mean.)

How it is built: the same words on a new map

PhraseReadingOut-of-sight meaningWho knows it
その人sono hitothat person you or I just mentionedonly one of us
あの人ano hitothat person, you know whoboth of us
それsorethat, the thing just saidwhoever said it
あれarethat thing from beforeboth of us
この話kono hanashithis story I am tellingthe speaker, presenting it

Nothing changes in the grammar. Sono and ano still go before nouns, sore and are still stand alone, and the rest of the family follows the same split: soko and asoko, sonna and anna, sō and ā, sono toki and ano toki. Only the map changes, from the room to memory.

So- for what only one of you knows

There are two cases. In the first, the listener mentions something you do not know, and you refer to it with so- because it is theirs. This is also why reactions begin with sore: sore wa ii desu ne, sore wa taihen deshita ne. In the second, you mention something the listener does not know. You introduce it, often with to iu, called, and from then on use sono. Having put it into words, you have placed it on the table.

Over lunch you tell a colleague about an old friend, and she tells you about a difficult house move and a shop she found.

JapaneseRomajiMeaning
大学の友達に山田という人がいます。Daigaku no tomodachi ni Yamada to iu hito ga imasu.I have a university friend called Yamada.
その人は今、京都に住んでいます。Sono hito wa ima, Kyōto ni sunde imasu.He lives in Kyoto now.
それはいつですか。Sore wa itsu desu ka.When is that?
それは大変でしたね。Sore wa taihen deshita ne.That must have been hard. (Literally: that was tough, wasn't it.)
その店の名前は何ですか。Sono mise no namae wa nan desu ka.What is that shop called?

A- for what you both know

A- words say: you know the one. They need real shared experience, such as a place you went to together, a person you both work with, or a matter you discussed last week. Because they assume a common past, they also create warmth. Ano toki wa arigatō gozaimashita, thank you for that time, tells the listener you both remember it. (Literally: as for that time, thank you.)

A- also appears when people talk to themselves or reminisce, as in ano koro wa yokatta nā, those were good days. There the speaker is their own listener, so the memory is shared by definition.

JapaneseRomajiMeaning
あの店、また行きましょう。Ano mise, mata ikimashō.Let's go to that place again.
あの時はありがとうございました。Ano toki wa arigatō gozaimashita.Thank you for what you did that time.
あの人、元気かな。Ano hito, genki ka na.I wonder how he is doing.
あの話、どうなりましたか。Ano hanashi, dō narimashita ka.What happened with that matter?
あそこのラーメン、おいしかったね。Asoko no rāmen, oishikatta ne.The ramen at that place was good, wasn't it.

Minimal pairs: one syllable, a different history

SentenceReadingWhat it says
その人に会いたいです。Sono hito ni aitai desu.I'd like to meet that person you described; I don't know them
あの人に会いたいです。Ano hito ni aitai desu.I'd like to see that person again; we both know who
その話は聞きました。Sono hanashi wa kikimashita.I have heard the story you just mentioned
あの話は聞きました。Ano hanashi wa kikimashita.I have heard about that matter we both know of
それ、どうなりましたか。Sore, dō narimashita ka.How did the thing you just mentioned turn out
あれ、どうなりましたか。Are, dō narimashita ka.How did that thing turn out, the one from before

The English is nearly the same in each pair, which is why this distinction is hard for English speakers: 'that' covers both. In Japanese the first sentence of each pair treats the topic as the other person's, and the second claims it as joint property. Say ano hito about your friend's new boyfriend, whom you have never met, and your friend will wonder when you met him.

Beyond the basics: ko- for a topic you are holding up

Ko- words belong to the speaker. In conversation, a speaker who has raised a topic and is still developing it can refer to it with kore, kono or konna, as if holding up a photograph for the listener to look at. It makes a story vivid and signals that more is coming. Koko dake no hanashi desu ga means just between us. (Literally: it is a story for here only.)

The listener cannot use ko- for the speaker's topic, for the same reason you cannot call something in another person's hand kore. They answer with so-, as in the last row.

JapaneseRomajiMeaning
これは友達から聞いた話です。Kore wa tomodachi kara kiita hanashi desu.This is a story I heard from a friend.
この話は秘密ですが、来月会社を辞めます。Kono hanashi wa himitsu desu ga, raigetsu kaisha o yamemasu.This is a secret, but I'm leaving the company next month.
ここだけの話ですが。Koko dake no hanashi desu ga.Just between us.
先週、こんなことがありました。Senshū, konna koto ga arimashita.Here is something that happened last week.
それで、その人はどうしたんですか。Sore de, sono hito wa dō shita n desu ka.And then what did that person do?

Are as 'you know, that thing'

Since are opens the shared album, it can stand in for a word the speaker cannot recall or would rather not say. The speaker is asking the listener to find the item for them. Between family members and long-standing colleagues this goes a long way: are, totte is enough for a husband to be handed the remote control. Strategies for describing a forgotten word are covered in a separate article; are is the shortcut that works when the listener already knows.

Are can also replace an awkward adjective. Chotto are desu ne leaves the listener to fill in inconvenient, expensive or embarrassing. It is common in speech and absent from careful writing.

JapaneseRomajiMeaning
あれ、持ってきた?Are, motte kita?Did you bring the thing?
あれ、取って。Are, totte.Pass me that, would you.
あれ、何だっけ。Are, nan da kke.What was it again? (Literally: that, what was it?)
ほら、あれですよ、あれ。Hora, are desu yo, are.You know, that thing, that thing.
それはちょっとあれですね。Sore wa chotto are desu ne.That's a bit, well, you know.

Neighbours: rei no, anō and the written language

Rei no means the one we both know about and is a slightly knowing alternative to ano, common at work: rei no ken, that matter. The hesitation sound anō is not a demonstrative at all; it fills a pause and softens an approach to a stranger.

In essays, news and formal email, so- is the normal choice and a- is rare. A writer cannot assume any shared album with an unknown reader, so everything referred to is something just written.

JapaneseRomajiMeaning
例の件ですが、どうなりましたか。Rei no ken desu ga, dō narimashita ka.About that matter, how did it go?
例の店で会いましょう。Rei no mise de aimashō.Let's meet at the usual place.
あのう、すみません。Anō, sumimasen.Um, excuse me.

Common mistakes with sono and ano

The first mistake is asking ano hito wa donna hito desu ka about someone your friend has just mentioned and you have never met. It is wrong because learners carry over the rule 'far away means ano', and an absent person feels far away. The person is on the table, not in your album: sono hito wa donna hito desu ka.

The second is opening with ano for something the listener cannot know: kinō ano resutoran ni ikimashita, said to someone with no idea which restaurant. The listener searches their memory and finds nothing. Name it first, then continue with sono.

The third is the reverse: sono toki wa arigatō gozaimashita to someone who helped you. It is not ungrammatical, but it sounds as if the memory were not shared. Ano toki is the warm choice.

The fourth is replying to the other person's news with are wa ii desu ne. Reactions to what was just said take sore: sore wa ii desu ne. The last is leaning on are with people who share no context with you. In a shop or a meeting with new clients, find the noun or describe the thing.

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A practical way to improve

This choice depends on who knows what, so practise with a partner who keeps track. Ask your AI Sensei in Unihongo's immersive 3D classroom to tell you about a friend you have never met, and ask five follow-up questions that all begin with sono hito or sore. Then reverse it: describe a restaurant from your home town with to iu, and continue with sono mise. The Report a Lost Wallet mission is good so- practice, because the officer has never seen your wallet and you both keep referring to it. To practise a- words, agree on an imaginary shared memory with the Sensei, last month's trip to Kyoto for example, and reminisce with ano toki and ano mise. Check the corrections for any ano that should have been sono.

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FAQ

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between sono and ano in Japanese conversation?

When the thing is not in sight, ano signals that both you and the listener know it from experience: ano mise, that restaurant we both know. Sono signals that only one of you knows it, or that it has just entered the conversation: sono mise, that restaurant you mentioned. The physical rule about distance applies only to things you can actually see or point at.

Why do Japanese people say are so often?

Are reaches into shared memory, so it can replace a word the speaker has forgotten or does not wish to say, as long as the listener can work out what is meant. Family members and close colleagues do this constantly: are, dō natta, what happened with that thing. It sounds warm between people who share context, and vague or careless with people who do not.

Can I use ano hito for someone the listener has never met?

Not when the person is absent. Ano hito tells the listener to look in memory for someone you both know, and a listener who has never met the person will be confused or will assume you mean somebody else. Introduce the person first, for example with Yamada to iu hito, and afterwards use sono hito. Ano hito is fine for a stranger you can both see.

When is kono used for something that is not physically present?

Speakers use kono, kore and konna for a topic they themselves have raised and are still developing, as if holding it up for the listener: kono hanashi wa himitsu desu ga, this is a secret, but. It makes the story vivid and marks it as the speaker's. The listener answers with so- words, since the topic belongs to the other person.

Is the filler anō the same word as ano?

They are written alike and are probably related in origin, but they behave differently. Anō, usually with a lengthened vowel, is a hesitation sound used to get attention or soften what comes next, as in anō, sumimasen. It does not point at anything and is not followed directly by a noun. Ano before a noun is the demonstrative described in this article.

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